Sex/Life is a series all about the secret sexy business of couples, throuples, exes who still fuck for some reason, LDR darlings, polycules, and any other kind of amorous grouping your perfect heart can fathom. We send them nosey questions, they record themselves answering them, and we transcribe that conversation for all of us to enjoy. All names have been changed and any identifying details removed.
River (nonbinary dyke) and Mason (trans butch dyke) are both 21 and based in New York City. Riverโs an art history major who works at Trader Joeโs and Masonโs a barista going back to school for medical lab science in the fall. At the time of this interview, theyโd been dating for around seven months, but hooking up for a couple months longer than that.
And this is how they fuck.
What was your sex life like when you first started dating? How is that different from now?
River: When we started hooking up casually I was also seeing someone else at the time โ so I feel like my attention was pretty split. But in the end I picked you.
Mason: True.
River: I feel like I was definitely trying to play it cool and mysterious and I tried to be sexy all the time. I was a little unsure of the height difference โ Iโve never been with someone with such a big height difference! So at first that was an obstacle.
Mason: For context, Iโm 5 feet and River is 5โ7โ.
River: Youโre 4โ11โ.
Mason. Okay, yeah Iโm 4โ11โ.
[laughter]
Mason: That was basically what I said! Since it was more casual in the beginning, we did just have sex every time we saw each other, which isnโt sustainable. Or what youโd want long-term. We donโt have sex every time we see each other anymore.
River: But we still pass out and wake up at 4am confused after sex.
Mason: Yeah, we do still fuck and then immediately fall asleep.
River: And I say โI love youโ in missionary now.
Mason: True! Big change, big change. Oh yeah, I used to write tankas after every time we had sex.
River: Because he was courting me.
Mason: So we do technically have less sex than when we first started.
River: And I feel like Iโm more vocal now.
Mason: Interesting! I would not have that read. I think youโre quieter.
[Laughter]
River: You think Iโm quieter now?
Mason: Yeah.
River: Really?
Mason: Volume-wise, at least.
River: Really?!
Mason: Yeah! Youโre way quieter now than you used to be. I feel like you talk less.
River: Thatโs interesting.
Mason: Itโs interesting that you donโt think that!
River: Wait, why?
Mason: Well, because I feel like when we were first hooking up, we were talking the whole time, so loudly. Youโd just be babbling. Youโd be like, โOh, good. This is good. This is awesome. This is good. Love. Love whatโs happening. Yeah. More. Yes.โ Sex words.
River: I was giving you affirmations. I still talk.
Mason: You still do! I just thinkโฆ less.
River: I think Iโm more confident. I was definitely putting on my sexy performance that I always do when I hook up with people. I have a front. And now I donโt!
If you donโt live together, how has that impacted your sex life?
River: We live an hour away by train. So itโs a long distance relationship, essentially. Weโve talked about moving in eventually.
Mason: But we havenโt been dating long enough and weโve seen that factor impact other people and other relationships around us. So weโre not in a rush.
River: Also we both like our living situations.
Mason: I think living an hour apart inclines us to meet in the middle, get out of the house, like โletโs meet somewhere and then go back to one personโs houseโ rather than going straight to each otherโs houses.
River: Yeah, makes sense.
Mason: Itโs also like when weโre seeing each other, itโs more intentional โ weโre more likely to have sex โcause we canโt just do this any night.
River: And I usually leave my dildos here.
Mason: Thereโs been an exchange of toys. But also, the commute can be so tiring! Like โGod, now I donโt have the energy to do anything I just want to go to bed.โ So it can kind of go both ways. Those things are true on different days.
River: It makes me more inclined to stay over for extended periods of time because I donโt want to do the hour commute.
Mason: I could see the same for living together, where it could be both ways โ โOh, weโre just together all the time, so weโre always fucking,โ or itโs like, โOh, weโre together all the time, so weโre always not fucking.โ
River: Yes, thatโs why I think if we do end up living together, we should make things more intentional โ like going out, having dates.
Mason: We donโt know if weโll have that problem yet.
River: Only time will tell!
If you are parents or caretakers, how has this impacted your sex life?
Mason: The closest we get to being caretakers is that me and my roommate have a dog, and my roommateโs an actor, so sheโs sometimes out of town for weeks at a time, so then Iโm watching him and canโt spend the night anywhere else. So we stay here more and since my roommateโs not home, we are louder. Or we fuck on the couch.
River: Naked, in the kitchen.
Mason: Yeah.
River: And my roommate has a cat, but she doesnโt leave a lot. But the times that she does, I have to take care of her.
Do you have a top/bottom dynamic? Talk about that.
River: Iโm a bottom! But Iโm not a pillow princess. I like to think Iโm a power bottom.
Mason: Okay, okay.
River: You donโt think so?
Mason: No, I donโt! I was gonna say that I feel like at heart, weโre both verse and switch.
River: Yes.
Mason: But I think in this relationship Iโve definitely leaned into a likeโ
River: Daddy?
Mason: Stone dom top. Which I feel great about. And I like this a lot more than I have in other relationships where itโs been more evenly split. I definitely like to top more.
River: You told me about your top mindset, which Iโd never known anything about. I used to be kind of insecure about how much I was bottoming until you told me about your top mindset, and then everything became clear.
Mason: Actually yeah, and that was something that I got from the Autostraddle Good Boys podcast. Love.
River: Whoa!
Mason: Iโm gonna be so real, Iโve only listened to a couple episodes I donโt even remember the names of the people on it. But the guy whoโs not Motti was talking about how he simply has the heart of a top. He was talking with his girlfriend about that, and it just resonated! You simply can have the heart of a top, and I think I do. Thereโs a lot of discourse in the community about top and bottom, and sub and dom.
River: Yes.
Mason: Like, Audre Lorde has a lot about being anti-BDSM and anti-recreating patriarchal sex roles during sex butโ
River: I donโt agree with that.
Mason: Which is a product of being young, and how the sex culture is now. I think that if you say youโre a top or you say youโre a bottom, thereโs this implication that youโll never do the other thing.
River: But I think you can top while being a bottom. You can have the bottom mindset and still be topping.
Mason: Thatโs why I think itโs funny that you called yourself a power bottom, because I feel like I am kind of still dom, even when you are topping. And I feel like I am domming while topping also.
River: Iโm like, SUCH the bottom. When youโre so much a bottom that youโre like a โฆ power bottom?
Mason: Youโre using Power Bottom to mean like, Bottom Plus?
River: Yes.
Mason: Like bottom premium?
River: Yes. Extra bottom.
Mason: I think even part of the discourse comes from penetration, with top meaning giving and bottom meaning receiving, when thatโs not necessarily the focus that people wanna bring to queer sex. And I donโt think penetration is necessary. I think it can be fun, and a fun dimension to explore with someone but Iโm not even crazy about how penetration feels on me.
River: Because you canโt even feel it.
Mason: Not really yeah, with T.
River: Iโm a size queen though, so fisting is like fingering for me.
Mason: Thatโs true.
Do you feel like your sex drives are well matched?
Mason: I do think yours is a little higher than mine, but itโs the most well-matched Iโve ever felt in a relationship. I had a couple of high school relationships that kind of fell apart because I had a higher sex drive than my partner. So Iโm glad that Iโm older and I can talk about things. Iโm glad Iโm not in high school. But I still donโt think itโs anything too crazy different.
River: I definitely think weโre pretty equal. I probably have more of a higher sex drive, but I think thatโs just because I like to dress sexy, I like to be sexy. I like for you to get hot and bothered for me.
Mason: True.
River: I think thatโs really fun. And I think making you feel horny makes me feel horny, which also goes into being a bottom.
Mason: Your performance. Your sexy performance.
River: I think being a bottom โ you are performing in a way. Even though youโre receiving, youโre still performing, and thatโs how you be a good bottom!
Mason: The performance.
River: Yes, even though itโs all real, obviously! I donโt fake. I used to fake.
Mason: [noise of being aghast]
River: I used to fake orgasms.
Mason: Thatโs crazy.
River: Not anymore! But yes, I do think weโre pretty evenly matched, which Iโm very happy about because when Iโve been in relationships in the past where the other person is not horny and then I feel like a perv, and then Iโm just like, โHi, Iโm just being weird right now,โ and then Iโm embarrassed and shy.
Mason: It definitely does always feel weird to be the one who is more, I think.
River: Iโm pretty much always down to have sex, thatโs my problem.
Mason: Thatโs what I like โ by you having the higher sex drive it just means that you basically would at any time, ever.
River: Youโre making me sound like a slut! No, thatโs true. Iโd have sex anywhere. In the bathroom.
Mason: On the dance floor.
River: in the grocery store. We didnโt, no, not the grocery store.
Mason: In the hot tub.
River: In the hot tub.
Are there specific things you like to do during sex? Things you donโt like to do?
Mason: I say we both like getting and giving head.
River: Yes I love to get head. Itโs so hard for me to come externally but he has cracked the code, thank lord. I am a size queen so I can handle a lot of insertion. Fisting is like fingering for me. But he does have small hands.
Mason: Whoa!
River: Calling him Daddy all the timeโฆ we like strapping, we like to get strapped.
Mason: Yeah we do strap and we like to strap. Since you do such large insertions it has to be such a workout, so itโs like mmmm do I have that in me today?
River: I feel like I also have more stamina. But also I am a bottomโ actually no, bottoms have to do work too!
Mason: Thatโs true but.. usually the positions that we do, youโre sitting down or laying down and Iโm like, moving more. I would say Iโm probably burning more calories. So it can get to be a real workout.
River: Yeah. I do like scissoring.
Mason: Scissoringโs so fun, weโve cracked the code to scissoring. Slay.
River: I like it when you put your boy dick inside of me.
Mason: Penetration from my t-dick is fun.
River: Iโm not gonna come from it but it feels good.
Mason: Itโs just fun!
River: It feels likeโฆ
Mason: Is that a crime?
River: Whatโs that thing that the Mormons sayโฆ likeโฆ energy? Youโre kissing and then like โ
Mason: If itโs what I told you about, itโs a hippie thing. Itโs like an unbroken energy connection.
River: Like your mouths are together and then your genitals are also touching โ
Mason: Itโs like scissoring in a more annoying position. LIke itโs not really sustainable. Itโs awkward we havenโt found a way to make it not awkward.
River: I feel like in doggy style is the easiest. I like it after getting my guts rearranged, thatโs a nice little likeโฆ after thing to do. Apparently I found out Iโm kind of a demon when I ride you.
Mason: Thatโs true, thatโs why youโve gotta be laying down. If youโre unleashed to any other sort of upright position?
River: Itโs like in Twilight, the bed is breaking.
What are some things youโd like to try (or try again)?
River: Well, weโve always talked about making a video together and we never do. So one day we will. Maybe for my birthday.
Mason: True.
River: โCause you have an iPhone tripod to take nudes.
Mason: Iโd say play parties, which weโve always vaguely talked about, that Iโd be curious to go to.
River: Oh my god I know so many people who go to play parties. I donโt wanna run into any of my exes.
Mason: The Brooklyn circle is too tight, I guess.
River: Too tight.
Mason: Since we both are people with herpes, Iโm curious what that would mean at a play party and how that would be a factor.
River: The play party that Iโve been to, and another I was at for like ten minutes, it looked like they had โ everything looks sterile and clean. There werenโt really spots where liquids would stay, there were cleanups, doggy pads, stuff like that. People were being handed out gloves for when youโre having sex with strangers. So there are safety precautions. But also probably half the people at play parties have herpes and donโt know it.
Mason: Thatโs the thing about herpes, you can have it and pass it without ever getting a breakout.
River: Iโve never tested positive.
Mason: If you havenโt had a breakout or not currently breaking out, it can be really difficult to catch on a test, but you couldโve had it for years.
River: Thatโs how I gave it to you.
Mason: Thatโs how I have it. I have had a breakout. Not to turn into a herpes PSA, there are like mitigation medications, et cetera. BUt yeah it is just something thatโs likeโฆ.
River: More people are getting it too โcause more people are giving head.
Mason: Yeah true, โcause like the one at least that I have tested positive for, thereโs two strains โ one is the more common one, on the mouth, for cold sores, and 2 is the one you more commonly have on your genitals for genital sores. But I have 1 on my genitals. And Iโve never had a cold sore on my mouth in my life. But more people are getting 1 on their genitals because someone with a cold sore is giving them head, which is interesting. So I have wondered how we could fit into thatโ
River: Iโm sure we could do that. Youโve also only tied me up once, which I really like, to be in sub space.
Mason: True.
River: When were first started fucking and you found out I was going to play parties, you were a lot more bitey and playing with pain. Now youโre too nice to me. But you can bite me.
Mason: Alright, alright.
River: I finally just got you back to spitting on me.
Mason: I donโt know if youโve experienced this, but thereโs almost a kind of guilt, I feel like, that comes with being like a S & M top where itโs like โ I donโt really like pain that much. I donโt really like to be hurt during sex, so I can feel bad sometimes where Iโm like, โOh, I donโt wanna do that to you.โ But itโs just โcause itโs something that I personally donโt like. So if you were doing this to me, Iโd be upset with you.
But itโs like โ you enjoy being the bottom for it and I enjoy being the top for it. So itโs like why would there be that guilt? But I think it just still is inherent with, well, I donโt want to be hurting you, and if we were not in a sex scene, I would not be doing this.
River: Thatโs so sweet. I once asked him to slap me and he refused.
Mason: I wouldโve needed to prepare for that a little more. I like to be an S&M top, I just โ I feel like Iโm in danger of top drop.
River: Iโve never heard that term before!
Mason: You havenโt?
River: Is that when itโs too much for a top, you break down?
Mason: Like if you donโt get the right aftercare.
River: And nobodyโs talking about top aftercare.
Mason: Yeah.
River: I think thatโs the best thing afterwards is aftercare, especially from someone that you love. You only did it once, but you gave me water and then you helped me drink it and that was awesome. I was like, oh my god wait, does he like me?
Mason: That was when we knew each other less, too, so I was less inclined to just leave be โ but also I was just less inclined to curl on top of you and cuddle you the way we do now. It was more like โ I hesitate to say business transaction, but like โ I donโt know you that well, so Iโll get you water. Itโs more of a generic sort of thing to prepare for, versus now I hold you. Anything else youโd like to try?
River: More rope stuff. You always tease me and say you have rope stuff and yet Iโve never seen it! Also we used to email each other nudes which I think is the best way to receive them.
Mason: Oh true, that was kind of funny.
River: Iโd get an email at work from you and itโd be like .. your dick. That was funny, we should get back on that.
How important are orgasms to your sex life?
River: As much as it may seem like theyโre important to me โ they, well, I enjoy them.
Mason: (elegant voice) Well it MUST be said, I enjoy orgasms.
River: It must be said I enjoy them. But theyโre not make or break. Iโm not going to be upset, but I do enjoy them. Who doesnโt enjoy coming?
Mason: Well I donโt know because for some people thatโs a whole thing, theyโre like into big big denial. Edging is the entire thing.
River: Iโm a big edger.
Mason: But theyโre like months and months no coming.
River: Oh my God. No Iโm not.
Mason: Theyโll just do edging and edging and edging and edging for days and days and days and days and weeks and months. Thatโs what Iโm saying.
River: I think I would freak out.
Mason: Real denial heads out there.
River: Thatโs terrible! Itโs really easy for me to come internally. I think I can do it ten times a row.
Mason: And I have also listened to a Good Boys podcast episode about this, where Motti was talking about how he is trying to work on being able to cum more than once, which is exactly how I feel. I can kind of only do the one time.
River: One and done.
Mason: Maybe twice.
River: Two pump chump.
Mason: But the second one is never the same as the first. Itโs hard for me to come internally alone. Then externally I can get really sensitive really fast in an over-stim painful way.
River: Is that why youโre more of a top?
Mason: Yeah kind of โ I donโt have the stamina and as Iโve been on T for longer, my sense of pleasure during sex has changed and evolved I think. I used to be able to have more stamina when bottoming. But it can get painful if Iโm not careful and I donโt have as much stimulation inside as I used to.
River: Sometimes itโs so bloody for the both of us.
Mason: Sometimes we both bleed, but yours is more justified than mine. I have a lot of top stamina, I feel. Especially for the durations weโre going, itโs kind of inevitable that YOU come once? And then the way that I will cum so fast.
River: I like to cum externally a lot too. I think thatโs so fun because not being on T, itโs kind of like fireworks and explosions. Itโs a full body feeling and I really like that. But again, itโs not the most important thing.
Mason: Yeah I definitely wouldnโt say itโs the most important.
River: Itโs the journey, not the destination.
What role does masturbation play in your sex life?
River: I donโt masturbate as much as I used to, sometimes I like to purposely not especially if we donโt see each other for a few days so then I can tell you that I havenโt come in a week.
Mason: Itโs a good motivator to have sex. Before we were together I was single and hadnโt had sex partners in a while so I think having a sexual relationship with yourself always iis really important. I canโt imagine really like, ever completely stopping masturbation? I know thatโs the goal for some people, if they feel they have an unhealthy relationship with it.
River: When I say donโt masturbate as much as I used to, I mean I donโt masturbate multiple times a day every day.
Mason: Right, right. I still do every couple of days, whatever. Sometimes I think itโs fun when we are not spending the night together, sending pictures.
River: Yes, I have a mirror.
Mason: Itโs not like sending pics back and forth and dirty talking, itโs more like โIโm jerking off, hereโs a selfie.โ
River: And we donโt watch porn together. I watch straight porn because I am a slut. I think with gay porn and queer porn, theyโre just so nice to each other.
Mason: Thatโs true.
River: Theyโre so sweet to each other. Sometimes when I jerk off i need โ sometimes straight porn is the way to go. I like to watch a lot of gang bang porn and I like to think itโs like ten of you.
Mason: True.
River: And when are they doing that with gay people??! You cannot findโ
Mason: Show me tenderqueer gang bang!
River: No you literally canโt! Itโs so annoying. If there was hard core queer tied up gang bang i would be Viewer #1. Iโd be first in the comments. But thereโs nowhere that I can find thatโs free at least.
Mason: And thatโs a little problematic of you not paying your porn stars!
River: I know I know Iโm supposed to be paying. My old roommate had this queer porn subscription.
Mason: Iโve bought erotic โ I have like an erotic comic that I purchase from Ren Strapp. Another Autostraddle fixture!
River: Are you jerking them off?
Mason: Iโve purchased porn before.
River: Not to be too high and mighty!
Mason: Okay.
River: Some of us need to masturbate on a budget! With my Target vibrator. He makes fun of me for my wand but it gets the job done, as Chappell Roan would say.
Mason: Yeah the Target wand. Not to be elitist. I have the Hitachi.
River: Okay which is great and all. But also Iโve had this one since I was 17 and it still works to this day.
Mason: Iโm happy for your beautiful relationship.
River: You have seen it! Youโve seen it work.
Mason: I have.
River: We donโt really masturbate together.
Mason: That could be fun.
River: We masturbate each other off.
Mason: True. So I thinkโ
River: I think even if we lived together I would still masturbate. Probably less than I ever have in my life, but that would probably be my lowest amount of all time.
Tell us about your favorite or most memorable time youโve had sex together.
River: Probably when I gave you herpes but thatโs not my most favorite.
Mason: Definitely most memorable.
River: Definitely the most memorable! Maybe when we had sex on the dance floor as Edward and Jacob. I was Edward and he was Jacob. Letโs just say the club was quite crowded and queer friendly andโ
Mason: There was some fingering. And I think thatโs kind of iconic.
River: Also, having sex in another club bathroom โ
Mason: There was no line.
River: No line!
Mason: Quite frankly, before the comments pile up, no disrespect to anyone, we got out of there and no one was waiting for that stall.
River: No one was waiting. There was actually an empty stall.
Mason: So you know what?
River: Itโs fine. Everyone lived.
Mason: It was like 10:00 PM. The club wasnโt full yet. We were there early.
River: Yes
Mason: We were beating the cover.
River: Yes. And it stayed empty, actually.
Mason: And it stayed empty, and then we left. Thatโs a good one.
River: But thatโs when I realized that I could fall in love with him.
Mason: Wow.
River: Yes, โcause then I found out later that you wrote a poem about that.
Mason: Well, yes.
River: And that was so sweet.
Mason: That was a tanka moment.
River: Yeah, but you never shared it with me.
Mason: Well, I still have it. I really liked the first time that I made you come from eating you out, I thought that was big. โCause you had been really hyping up that you canโt do that, and then I did it.
River: And you did. And were you like, โYes?โ
Mason: Yes. You arenโt very frequently the type of, shall I say, orgasmer who has your knees together? I feel like thereโs some people who are knees together and some people who are knees apart, and youโre very frequently knees apart.
River: Well, thatโs good.
Mason: Which is good for my safety. But occasionally you are knees together and it is satisfying and hot. But I do think if you did it every time, Iโd be scared. But it what it is.
River: And nervous. I wouldnโt wanna crush your head.
Mason: Well, exactly. Exactly. I think itโs very considerate of you.
River: Of course.
Mason: So thatโs what makes it hot.
River: And the other day where your nose almost got broken.
Mason: That was brave.
River: That was brave!
Mason: Brave of you!
River: Or that time where I was riding you and the bed shifted a lot. Sometimes-
Mason: My bad.
River: โฆ I sound like Iโm in pain, but I promise Iโm not, to all the neighbors.
Mason: My bed scooted like four inches out from the wall that one time.
River: What else? Well, we just kind of have mind-blowing sex every single time.
Mason: Yeah. So really memorable, really memorable and distinct every time.
River: Every single time. Or whenever you call me puppy.
Mason: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think overall, we donโt have a silly one, though. I feel like we donโt have a silly send-off story.
River: Dressing up as Edward and Jacob.
Mason: Oh, yeah, I guess thatโs pretty good.
River: Fingering each other in the club.
Mason: Thatโs pretty good.
River: Enough said.
Mason: All right.
River: Welcome to Brooklyn!
Comments
these ppl couldnโt be more 21
good for them tho!!!