A few years back, the NCAA started doing a thing called “teamcast” as part of its Final Four coverage. If you just wanted to watch the regular game, called by Jim Nantz, Grant Hill and Bill Raftery, you watched on CBS, but if you were a fan of either of the two teams involved, the NCAA promoted “teamcasts” on their partner networks. So, for example, in 2018, the NCAA championship final was between Michigan and Villanova. If you were a Michigan fan, you could watch the championship on TNT and hear the game called by a slate of analysts directly connected to Michigan. If you were a Villanova fan, you could watch the championship on TruTV and hear the game called by a slate of analysts with intimate knowledge of ‘Nova basketball. It always struck me as a blantantly obvious grab for more advertising dollars but maybe I’m just salty that my alma mater hasn’t gotten close to the national championship game in 25 years.
I’m mentioning all this because, I’m switching things up a little bit this year… instead of giving my own takes of what makes our finalist worthy of your vote for the national championship, I’m doing my own version of the teamcast. After Alex Danvers and Juliana Valdés won their respective semifinal match-ups — neither of which turned out to be close, surprisingly — I reached out to two Autostraddle readers, Emily Danvers and Jessica Vazquez, to talk about their personal connections to the characters’ coming out stories.
March Madness is a fun contest to put together… finding 64 participants means rewatching a lot of stories I’d forgotten about and unearthing new ones that I hadn’t made time for or that I hadn’t even been aware of. I always end up learning a lot. When the voting commences, I know it often ends up being one fandom between another and while that’s the nature of the game, it overshadows what’s really important: our connection to these stories…which, especially with respect to coming out stories, is often so deep and palpable. So, in this last round of voting, I want to center that again.
#4. Alex Danvers – Supergirl
As it happens, Emily Danvers hadn’t seen a single episode of Supergirl before she witnessed Alex Danvers come out to her sister. She’d never watched the show before, she’d never read the comics, she just happened to walk into a room at work at that exact moment. A moment of pure serendipity. It was the first time she’d ever seen Supergirl and she fell in love with it, and Alex Danvers, in particular, right away. She rushed to catch up, binge watching the entire series, and saw herself in Alex.
“I’d only been able to tell a few people I liked girls at that point and only if they asked. I absolutely couldn’t call myself gay or a lesbian out loud,” Emily explained. “Those scenes could have been me and Chyler Leigh made it so powerful with her hesitation and her body language and the way she could barely look at Kara or Maggie. I’d had so many conversations in the months before where I wanted to come out but just couldn’t say the words.”
Like Alex, Emily tried to avoid dating and, in the rare instance that she did date, she didn’t enjoy it. Like Alex, she’d almost convinced herself that she just wasn’t built for love. Like Alex, she’d repressed feelings of attraction for women until she found her Maggie: the person for whom she could no longer deny her feelings. Like Alex, she was scared to come out to her family and friends, worried that the admission would tarnish the image of the person they’d known. But, as good representation does, Alex Danvers’ coming out story offered Emily not just a reflection of herself but a glimpse into the possibility of it all. Seeing Alex Danvers, the ass-kicking agent at the DEO, be vulnerable and fearful, gave Emily space to be that too. Seeing Alex Danvers — someone, in her late 20s, already with an established, successful career — come out, gave Emily a reprieve: coming out can happen at any age and no one should feel guilty about what age they do it.
“Maggie telling Alex ‘we should kiss the girls we want to kiss’ and Alex kissing her back was the final bit of permission I needed to choose to be out,” Emily told me. “A couple of weeks after seeing that episode I finally came out to my best friend, something that I’d been trying to do for months. Then over the next few months I told more friends, my sister and some people at work. I couldn’t use the word gay at first so I practiced saying ‘I’m gay’ and ‘I’m a lesbian’ alone in my car where nobody could hear me until I could say them confidently and without stammering and could say them to actual people. Without Alex I don’t think I would’ve found the confidence to do any of that, certainly not for months or years.”
For Emily, Alex Danvers’ story stands out as a rarity among coming out stories because of its authenticity: all of Alex’s emotions — the fear, the excitement, the passion, the heartbreak — echoed everything Emily felt as she navigated her own coming out. Alex Danvers’ story was beautiful in its simplicity, “it was just Alex getting to figure out who she was, over several episodes, with the love of her family and friends and then getting to be happy about it,” Emily pointed out. And, in a television landscape that too often consigns coming out stories to high school students and tries to convince us we have to have it all figured out by adulthood, Alex Danvers stands out: the rare adult character who finds this thing about herself that she never knew she was hiding.
#4. Juliana Valdés – Amar a Muerte
Jessica Vazquez was reluctant to embrace Amar a Muerte at first. She’d been down this road before — first, with Los hombres de Paco and then with Tierra de lobos — of investing in a telenovela’s queer love story only to watch it devolve into recycled tropes and end in burying one or more of their gays, so she resisted. Who could blame her? The show’s literally called “Love to Death.” But, after seeing the show’s lesbian couple, Juliana and Valentina (portmanteau: Juliantina), recur on her twitter timeline: Jessica finally relented and did a deep dive into the couple’s history, including discovering clips of their scenes, translated by a community who wanted to give Juliantina a wider audience.
For Jessica, Juliana’s coming out story evokes a lot of nostalgia. She sees herself and her high school best friend in Juliana and Valentina’s love story on Amar a Muerte. The wistful stares and the dreamy gazes that flash across Juliana’s face reminded her of her own. Like Juliana and Valentina, Jessica and her best friend would spend countless hours together. Jessica wrote songs for her friend and comforted her with all-night movie marathons when her best friend broke up with her boyfriend. She’d fallen in love with her best friend even if, at the time, she didn’t realize it.
“To say I was clueless to how I felt would be an understatement. One time she kissed me and she asked me if I thought we could be bisexual. I froze and didn’t say anything and her mother came in so we quickly moved away from each other and we never talked about it after that,” Jessica shared, her story slightly mirroring how Juliana’s mother found out about her daughter’s relationship. “Seeing Juliana and Valentina struggle with their feelings for each other by talking to one another about it reminded me of that time of my life.”
When Juliana’s mother, Lupe, finds her daughter together, she tries to tear them apart but it doesn’t work. Juliana’s tenaciousness — her “unwavering drive to make her own way despite all obstacles” — is what makes her coming out story worth stand out, Jessica told me. There’s not a moment of equivocation from Juliana. When Lupe and El Chino object to her relationship, she is unwavering: what she feels for Valentina is real love and not something she should be ashamed of. Those affirmations are powerful on their own, but in a genre and on a channel that hasn’t been thoughtful in its depiction of lesbian storylines, they were groundbreaking.
“I have witnessed many perfectly good queer romances fall apart on screen because one character was made to use the intensity of their feelings as the weapon. Thankfully, Juliana’s stubbornness wasn’t used as a way to denounce her feelings for Valentina,” Jessica said. “Instead, it was used as a way to orchestrate one of the best endings any fan of queer television could hope for. Juliana Valdes got the storybook ending she deserved, and so did everyone who was rooting for her.”
Maybe if she’d been able to see Juliana’s coming out story, and the story of her love for Valentina, when she was younger, maybe Jessica’s story would have ended differently. Perhaps a younger generation of women can watch Juliana’s story and have the words she lacked. Maybe a younger generation can find their own Valentinas and get their own storybook endings.
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Wow I was not expecting this.
Tierra de lobos still stings…
Also thank you @Natalie for this contest, got to watch again / discover some beautiful coming out stories and it shows us how it was and still is important to have this representation.
Ops wrong thread 😂 anyway thank you!
Thanks again for putting the contest together Natalie. This was a lot of fun
In honor to trying to HEAVILY tip the balance in favor of Alex Danvers, here’s her two greatest coming out stories.
To Maggie…
…And to Kara.
One thing that speaks to me about Alex’s story is that with other stories when the woman is coming out, she’s simply coming out. But when Alex was coming (to Maggie, to Kara, to her mother) she was processing her own feelings WHILE she was coming out. With Maggie she’s saying it out loud, and the whole world is changing. With Kara she was stepping back through all of her past to look at it with new eyes. With her mother she was re-evaluating her relationship to the world. It says something that with the first two she has to stop after a while and flee her feelings.
this comment made me think about alex’s coming out in a better light. i felt a bit let down by it, but you’re right. it was really great in a lot of ways. thanks for making me appreciate it, and why it resonates with so many people!
I love Alex Danvers and her coming out really touched me but juliantina have my heart…
As a queer woc idk this representation just was everything I wanted to see. (the struggles, the love, the connection, the consistency, how natural and organic they’re relation feel)
I loved Valentina’s coming out but Juliana’s one was for me the most close to home because more than the coming out, the peer pressure of society, the search of your own identity feel so real and it is something that a lot of people struggle with even now. I’m rooting for you Juliana Valdes.
Anyway I feel like the juliantinas fandom got a bit underestimated here 😂 but it is huge and still growing… I mean we’re still getting fed even after the show ended 1 month ago (Barbara and Macarena are ❤️)
If you want to know more about Juliantina and what they mean to us, here one of the most beautiful article I got to read about Juliantina 🙂:
https://catapult.co/stories/juliana-and-valentina-on-amar-a-muerte-telenovela-love-queer-representation-yuly-restrepo-garces
Nathalie you’ve done such an unreal beautiful job with this March madness! I love the way you’ve weaved the context of basketball March madness throughout all of these pieces. It makes the sting of losing so much easier because you remind us of the beauty of each of these stories. You’re just so damn excellent is the moral here.
*Natalie !!
When in the previous comments section everyone was rooting for Ellen and Elena I felt like a bit of a monster, because those decisions were easy for me and also relieved, because I thought I wouldn’t have to choose between Alex and Juliana… and now this, I think the universe is punishing me xD
I vote for Juliana
This is one of those “Everybody Wins” scenarios, especially us ! Natalie’s brilliance in bringing these stories for us to rediscover, think about, identify with, and the lovely screencaps ! There’s drama, nail-biting, sadness and joy every step of the way.
Though not a fan of basketball (no really, I swear I’m gay !) I can really dig March Madness through the Autostraddle looking glass.
Unexpected consequence of accidentally discovering Supergirl: getting to share my love for Alex Danvers and how much she means to me on Autostraddle. Please vote for her!
Thanks Natalie for letting me share this!
Have I missed something? Where/when did Ellen/Elena go?
Es que a cuántas nos cacharon, ya sea besando a nuestra novia secreta,escribiendo una cartA a esa chica que nos gusta,o en fotos con ese ser que amamos.yo creo que a muchas y vivir un momento así te llena de miedo por cómo reaccionará tu familia.y casi siempre,la mayoría reacciona como Lupe, bueno hasta peor. Insultos, bajesas,hasta golpes.a mi me paso mi hermana leyó una nota que hice en una libreta,donde imaginariamente le declaraba mi amor a una amiga suya.cuándo me dijo :qué es esto?” Yo queríA desaparecer.no dije nada y me aguante sus insultos homofobicos.no volvimos a mencionar el suceso.pero tampoco la enfrente ni me salí del closet….Juls lo hizo defendió su amor por Valentina ante el acecho de mi madre…Juliana ganará, hay tantas que nos identificamos.
Diehard Alex Danvers fan here but…after reading this, I realized I must find Amar y Muerte and watch it asap!
Oops this was supposed to be on the main thread, but appreciated what I understood of this as well, like your last phrase about how Juliana will win because of people identifying with the show!