Welcome to the first of four fantastic recaps of our entire experience at the First-Ever A-Camp, which took place two hours outside of Los Angeles at Alpine Meadows in Angelus Oaks, California, from April 26th-29th.
![A-Camp](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/A-Camp.jpg?resize=640%2C480)
photos by (L to R, clockwise, starting at the top) - Robin Roemer, Rachel Walker, Gabby Rivera and Gabby Rivera
The idea was to take the spirit of the website into three glorious dimensions while simultaneously creating an affordable option for queer ladies for whom other lesbian events (such as Dinah Shore) aren’t a good fit. So, we rented out a summer camp in its off-season and enjoyed a transformative weekend of fun, friendship, panels, workshops, classes, sports, entertainment, events and so forth.
These epically long monster-posts will do their best to explain and extrapolate upon the camp experience, from shitstorms to emotional revelations to glory/triumph.
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photos by robin roemer
Today we are going to be re-capping all of history as well as Thursday, April 26th, which was mostly a shitstorm.
The idea here is that you’ll be on the edge of your seat wondering how everybody ended up being so happy by the end of the weekend!
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AND A DREAM WAS BORN
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Riese, CEO/Executive Editor: I may’ve mentioned this already — but back on some fateful night in July 2010, I woke up at 3am and wrote “CAMP – THIS WILL BE OUR THING” on a notepad I keep by my bed for nocturnal moments of genius. The next day I pitched the idea to Alex, and she agreed (re: its genius) and we’ve been talking about it ever since, both to each other and to other team members.
Marni, Camp Co-Director: Riese had been talking about camp for months (/years) and we’d had lots of excited conversations about it, and at some point I turned to her and said, “You know I used to run a summer camp, right? I can do this.” And she said “Okay. So do it.”
Riese: I was in New York in October 2011 for a panel and that’s when I pitched the idea to Robin, Carly, Jess & Stef. Everybody agreed it was the Best Idea Ever, especially Robin, because Robin loves camp. Although they’d never met, I knew right away that Robin and Marni would make an amazing team to lead this kind of thing.
Marni: And we were off.
Riese: We’d been waiting until we had the resources and following to put together a week-long camp event, but it became increasingly clear going into the fall of 2011 that we’d never have those resources, so in December I emailed everybody and said “let’s just try it for a weekend in California,” and everybody said YES LET’S DO IT.
The Lead-Up
Riese: I made a spreadsheet and Marni called a shit-ton of campsites and ultimately we picked Alpine Meadows ’cause it wasn’t affiliated with any religions that hate gay people, didn’t utilize life-scarring communal showers, was Vegan/Vegetarian-friendly, was reasonably priced and had VIP cabins for people like Julie Goldman who is “a Jew first, butch second.”
Further fascinating developments included: booking plane tickets for our entire staff, freaking out about the possibility of nobody wanting to come. But then we built it, and announced it, and everybody wanted to come. We filled all the spots in two days and had an enormous waiting list. It was one of the best feelings EVER.
Marni: I’ve never organized a camp via email before — in the past I’ve been on-site, with staff, planning things and training all together. This was a group of 35 women all over the world, with school and jobs and schedules to work around. Robin and I would have weekly phone calls where we’d plan out emails and spreadsheets and deadlines. There were lots and lots of emails.
At one point I was sitting in front of my little laptop struggling with this spreadsheet, trying to juggle workshops and make the schedule more balanced, and I just said fuck it, I need to touch this with my hands. So Riese and I biked to Walgreen’s and I bought colored cue cards and painter’s tape and I converted my entire bedroom wall into a giant schedule. I haven’t taken it down yet.
![wall schedule](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wall-schedule.jpg?resize=640%2C480)
marni's wall
Riese: I was handling all of the financial, registration-related and logistical elements of getting staff and campers to camp, including constructing cabin groups by a highly specific socially-engineered process that involved asking everybody to rank their affinity for AS and to certain personality adjectives like “socially anxious” and “outgoing.” I used Marni’s leftover cards and my entire floor to make this happen — the final cabins were named Forever 21, The Golden Girls, The Troubletones (original name: “Trouble”), Cherry Bomb, Rubyfruit, Little Rascals, The Sharks, The Beats, Littlefoot, Wolfpack and Hotel California. I can’t tell you how I organized them, it’s top secret.
Robin, Camp Co-Director/Photographer: January to April is my slowest season as a photographer, so I just kept reaching out to them and offering to help with whatever needed to be done. I worked mainly on the schedule and keeping in touch with instructors and counselors and Hannah.
I’m much more comfortable having things organized and structured really far in advance, so it was hard for me to allow certain parts of A-Camp organizing to come about in an organic way, but Marni is a really wonderfully calming presence.
Marni: We were so nervous as the date approached. I started waking up at 5am every morning with unfocused anxiety, like “how are we going to organize the icebreakers???” I didn’t realize at first but Riese was doing the exact same thing. The sun wouldn’t even be up yet and we’d both be lying there staring at the ceiling. It was nervousness but at the root of it was excitement.
Riese: Per ushe, I underestimated the amount of work involved — at some point there was a situation which required buying out the campsite for the weekend to avoid sharing it with 50 Pastors who apparently wanted to “retreat” that very same weekend. Also I had a mental breakdown, but that’s to be expected.
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Getting Our Shit Together
Marni: I got the idea for the pigeonholes based on a smaller-scale version we’d had for just staff at my old camp, but wasn’t sure how I was going to realize it. I went to this place in Oakland called the “East Bay Depot for Creative Reuse” and for 10 dollars I got 200 toilet paper rolls and a dozen or so cardboard things that I thought could maybe work and I spent the next two days sitting on the floor of Riese’s bedroom painstakingly tracing the tubes and cutting circles out of each piece of cardboard, and scraping off the bits of toilet paper left on the rolls. Riese was totally grossed out and I think was a bit unconvinced that this was the most worthwhile use of my time. (It definitely was.)
![pigeonholes beta](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/pigeonholes-beta.jpg?resize=640%2C480)
pigeonholes on riese's floor
![pinholes](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/pinholes.jpg?resize=640%2C480)
pigeonholes at camp
Robin: Our original document for camp was named after our first working title “Camp Fear,” which was named because of an email thread in which we discussed scary nighttime camp games. The document is still named “Camp Fear” and it makes me smile whenever I open Google docs. I would still like to plan a Stratego/Capture the Flag game for the next session, loosely based on the Hunger Games. Very loosely based.
Laneia, Executive Editor: I was put in charge of gathering workshop supplies, probably because I would be driving in from Phoenix and would have room for everything, but I like to think that Robin also knew how much I love making lists and buying sharpies. I cleared out my Trapper Keeper and set to work printing out spreadsheets and organizing shopping lists. I was sending emails asking “Can you clarify ‘assorted beads’ please?” and “What are your feelings on craft lace?” What I’m saying is, a childhood spent organizing office supplies swiped from my mom, cataloging doll accessories and coordinating elaborate sleepover clubs had finally, finally paid off.
![trapped and kept](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20120425_154136.jpg?resize=640%2C480)
all the things
Riese: I created a labyrinth driving schedule for airport transport that involved renting six 15-passenger vans from Executive Van Rental and having various counselors drive them 2.5 hours to the site. However, this plan quickly escalated into a Situation, and here’s why:
“Merging is something that I’m generally very scared of.” – Katrina
“I lost my driver’s license and debit card three weeks ago.” – Taylor
“I’m a New Yorker who doesn’t drive so… I am NOT useful behind the wheel of a car.” – Jamie
“I feel like now is a relevant time to tell you that I can’t drive.” – Grace
“I do not know how to drive.” -Carolyn
“Also did I mention that I have no driver’s license?” – Carmen
“I’d better not drive. I’d probably end up driving on the wrong side of the road.” -Crystal
“Even on a good day I probably wouldn’t have the attention span to safely drive a 15 passenger van to a place I’ve never been.” – Lizz
Therefore, I also had to book some Roadrunner Shuttles (they come with drivers!) to compensate. Soo, I’d given up on enticing any New Yorkers to drive when, much to my surprise, Gabby and Stef volunteered — with great enthusiasm! — to drive. Basically, I had a fantasy that I could make airport transportation both totally affordable and totally reliable. That turns out to be impossible. I forgot about this:
Gabby, Cherry Bomb Counselor/Writer: Working tv/film production I’ve driven a hot mess menagerie of vehicles: 15 pass vans, cube trucks, sprinter vans, sprinter-hybrid-cargo vans, Escalades, Smart Cars, golf carts etc. If it has wheels, I can pretty much handle that and I’ve got stamina for days (rim shot, please). I can drive forever on highways, side roads and sometimes even sidewalks. So at first I was super surprised that Riese didn’t have me on the camper pick-up schedule. I really wanted to drive and contribute and get right in there and meet some of you. Thankfully, Lizz asked if someone could switch with her. Enter: Gabby is driving a van now, yay!
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Tuesday, April 24th
Riese: I jam-packed our tiny rental car to the absolute brim and drove down from San Francisco alone, where I spent the entire trip talking to myself, imagining that I was talking to campers on the first night. Then I listed to “We are Young” (the Glee cast version) on repeat for an hour and started crying about my dream coming true and how much I loved everybody and was so excited, and then I talked to myself some more about that.
Robin: Marni, Riese, Taylor, Carly and I stayed in a hotel room together on Tuesday night. We were all anxious and nervous, but extremely excited for the new experience. At one point, I looked around the room to see Riese and Carly on their laptops, Marni organizing her folders of notes, maps, and schedules and Taylor taking photographs, and it reminded me of what it felt like to be present at those very early Autostraddle meetings many years ago.
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Wednesday, April 25th
I. Nobody Said It Was Easy / No One Ever Said It Would Be So Hard
![hotel](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hotel.jpg?resize=480%2C640)
wednesday morning in the hotel (photo by taylor)
Riese: Alright, SO. It’s about 1 PM on Wednesday and we’re waiting for Rachel/Emily/Stef/Crystal/Carolyn to arrive from being in the air.
We were moments away from departure — and the girls are arriving — when we got a super-unexpected call from the good (read: terrible) people at Roadrunner Shuttles, who were thrilled (read: totally unphased) to inform us that there was “a computer glitch” and our shuttles (3 for Thursday, 1 for Sunday — although I’d planned on booking three for Sunday, I just hadn’t decided the times yet) would cost $140 more, EACH. They already cost between $250-$350 dollars each, so this was a serious issue.
Me: So what you’re saying is your business made a mistake, and now my business has to pay for your mistake?
“Karen”: Or I could cancel the reservations, ma’am.
Me: But I have no choice! I’m literally hours away from losing internet access and I have 116 women I’ve gotta move from the airport to a campsite 2.5 hours away in 24 hours! What I want is to have shuttles at the price I reserved them for, that’s what I want.
“Karen”: We can’t do that, ma’am.
Me: ARGHHH!!!
Robin called to yell at them some more and Karen made up three different stories to avoid putting her on the line with a supervisor who did/didn’t exist and was/wasn’t in a meeting. We ended up canceling half the shuttles we’d booked, and reserving more vans for Autostraddle drivers to compensate.
Then I frantically attempted to devise a new plan for Thursday during the time I’d set aside to organize Sunday (this quickly became evident on Sunday.) Amid this stress I LEFT TINKERBELL IN THE HOTEL ROOM!
Then we made the drive to camp. It was a really beautiful day.
![driving-up](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/driving-up.jpg?resize=612%2C612)
driving to camp (photo by taylor)
Laneia: By the time we left for California, I was 85% certain that I’d thought of everything we’d all ever need forever — even the stuff that wasn’t on the lists! I was wrong, of course, but the back of Megan’s SUV definitely looked like I’d succeeded. We stopped at the Cabazon Dinosaurs and I hyperventilated a lot.
![roads and roads and dinosaurs omg](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Desktop3.jpg?resize=640%2C360)
from phoenix to angelus oaks
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II. Preparing For You
Riese: The drive up the mountain to camp is alternately like a nature movie and a horror movie. Within a few minutes of our arrival, Laneia & Megan showed up, as did Alex.
Alex, Autostraddle Co-Founder/Design Director: We spent Wednesday night putting together the gift bags and finishing the pigeon hole mail boxes. This night was awesome because I got to reunite with my fellow staff members/writers, many I haven’t seen in more than a year and many I hadn’t even met yet. The night was exhausting but the anticipation was high… finally Camp was happening.
![IMG_2557](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_2557.jpg?resize=640%2C426)
stef with the gift bags
Riese: I was so excited and nervous about everything, like my gut was tied up in star-shaped knots.
Stef, Wolfpack Counselor: Meeting up with everyone from Auto staff was surreal and beautiful; some were friends I’d known and adored for years, while others were people who had previously existed (to me, at least) only as avatars. I was familiar with everyone in one sense or another and it was really exciting for us to all be in the same room.
Laneia: Riese, Rachel and I wrote little notes for each camper while everyone else did the hard work. We talked about how it felt like a tv reunion special, with people from the original cast and the new kids. I kept looking up at the other girls and getting super overwhelmed with everything. At one point Robin said, “Can you believe this?! It’s like, who signed off on this idea? Who gave us permission to do this?”
![carly-marni](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/carly-marni.jpg?resize=640%2C480)
marni & carly test walkie-talkies
Emily, Sharks Counselor: I had been awake for about 20 hours after two hours of sleep and two plane rides. We had our first staff meeting at around midnight and the excitement was still palpable, even though we were all exhausted. I was really tired and my eyeballs fell out.
Laneia: Riese had us quiz her with the campers’ names because she’d accidentally memorized them all, which is impressive but not necessarily surprising, if you know Riese.
![IMG_2571](https://autostraddle-develop.go-vip.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_2571.jpg?resize=640%2C426)
first meeting (photo by taylor)
Riese: Most importantly, Marni got in touch with somebody at the hotel who said they had Tinkerbell and we could get her tomorrow!
NEXT: We actually talk about camp actually happening, almost!
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god i’m so fucking glad i bought those sea captain hats.
I’m thinking maybe old timey policeman hats next time?
for when i revert to my old ways and become the disciplinarian.
wait no, i have better costumes for that one.
Wonderful recap. I miss it all so much, still. A-Camp, you are forever in my mind/dreams.
I will totally own up to writing that quote about Sarah Croce driving, too.
Ever since I heard about a-camp I’ve wanted to go… Every post makes me want that more and more because where I live the only time there’s a group of us is the 12 hrs that our pride fest goes on and let’s be honest what’s more awesome than being around a group of smart happy women who like women
What if what if what if A-Camp 2 was in Canada? Would yall show up? I know an awesome place. Looking into prices/availability. Just an idea!
people keep asking questions like thissssss so i keep answering them!
in order to do A-Camp out of the country, we’d have to charge campers about $2,000 for a weekend session, because our budget would explode with us flying all of our staffers to canada or another country. so that’s impossible for us at this juncture, unfortunately!
Ohhh, that makes sense!! I will come to you then :P
for only like $1500 though, you can fly me to your country and i’ll drink a lot and it’ll be a lot like camp.
Do it! except all i can provide is the dranks :(
I AM REALLY WORRIED ABOUT TINKERBELL IS SHE OKAY?!
(also, this recap is perfect, I can’t wait to experience the rest of the weekend through you guys’ BEAUTIFUL EYES)
YOU’LL HAVE TO STAY TUNED TO FIND OUT!
THE SUSPENSE!
THE INTRIGUE!
Can’t some insider release spoilers? I NEED to know!
So before camp I had a couple of ideas for pranks, one of which was to kidnap tinkerbell and leave a mysterious ransom note. But i decided against it because i love you Riese and didn’t want you to hate me
oh god, i would be lying if i told you that i didn’t actually cry excessively about not having tinkerbell there, like a total lunatic
On the bright side, Tinkerbell can be the leader for all the first time campers in the fall!
tinkerbell is going to be a counselor, her cabin will probably also be called ‘littlefoot,’ let’s be real
Lol For real, through this whole recap, in the back of my head I was thinking ‘OMG, but did Riese get Tinkerbell back?”.
Sara Medd: BAMF. In Medd We Trust.
this. i can’t get over how badass sara looks in that van photo
This makes me so sad I missed the goings on at camp Thursday!
me toooooo. but we were busy being hbics at the airport, so.
But thank you, thank you, thank you for rescuing my duffel from Virgin America! And also, OMG you are so effing adorable!
your conversation with the virgin america person in the van made me know instantly that camp would be wonderful. “no you are wonderful! don’t you go being modest, you are amazing!” and then we stopped at in-n-out, so, you know, perfection.
I told her she was a “goddess” and she tried to argue with me but I wouldn’t let her. In the end she accepted the title and said I’d made her day! That was a fun group to ride to camp with! And yes..Camp was wonderful!
ohhh i miss it so much
You guys seriously rocked it out at the airport. A couple hours spent playing intense games of bananagrams, talking about pools filled with cream cheese and jello and and being aggressively offered snacks by Carmen were a memorable start to the weekend. Thank you for being so fun and upbeat!
The drive up the mountain to camp is alternately like a nature movie and a horror movie.
So true.
I didn’t go to A Camp, but I want Gabby to be my counsellor in, like, life.
Valid. And she makes a great dating coach too, FYI
aww, make my heart melt all overrr
YOU GUYS. I’m on Autostraddle like 34 times a day, ERRDAY. And for once I was NOT on Autostraddle for TWO WHOLE WEEKS because I was away, and that’s when talk about camp and registration happened.
My heart. It breaks.
Now I check AS about 87 times a day in anticipation for A-Camp 2.0. It looked so magical!
soon, grasshopper, so soon!
I’ll do a Kickstarter if I have to
I’m only halfway through but I had to stop and comment just to say that “So Thursday morning I drove to the Canadian Consulate to collect these brightly-colored plastic buzzers for lesbian jeopardy” is the best sentence I have ever read. Also, I am totally coming to A-Camp next time.
ahem they were for music jeopardy and we could not have done it without them. THANK YOU ANNIKA <3
We used them for lesbian jeopardy too!
i feel like we broke two of them
Naw I managed to fix them.
As Annika’s riding buddy, I got the pleasure of receiving this in text form as I prepared for camp. Best text I have ever received. It was clearly a good omen – I knew at that moment that this would be a beautiful weekend and Annika and I would be great road trip buddies! (and it ended up being only one of many trip delays, but the only one not caused by my horrible sense of direction!)
I was on official consular business!
YOU MEMORIZED ALL OF OUR NAMES???
<3
I heard that a camper went up to Riese and introduced herself and was like, “Oh, Blank, So and So?” She could do last names and first names. crazy talent
I just take a lot of pleasure in knowing that Riese knows my first and last names.
YES SHE DID IT WAS INCREDIBLE
When I finally worked up the courage to introduce myself to Riese, she was like, “I know.”
I aspire to reach this point in life!
“I would still like to plan a Stratego/Capture the Flag game for the next session, loosely based on the Hunger Games. Very loosely based.”
YES YES DO THIS YES YESSSS
P.S. I was about 60% committed to coming to A-Camp even if it conflicted with the viva for my Masters degree, but after this I am at about 93%.
Zomg I love this so much, and I’m in a picture!!!!
Also the drive was awesome because I became best friends with Bren on the way up. booyah!
I think the friendships formed at and strengthened by A-Camp is something that I can never fully thank Riese for.
You’re talkin’ ’bout me, right B!
Of course!
I’ll always remember and hold dear that moment we shared…Right before you grabbed your bags and moved out of our cabin with a “Yeah, well..later ya’ll” and nary a look back..You damned ginger girls..
I wasn’t sure I wanted to read all about Camp, just because it’d make me more sad that I wasn’t there, but it turns out that I do want to read all about it after all. Thanks for posting this! It sounds like it was amazing, and you haven’t even finished the weekend yet.
Next time…
Same! I was like awwww this post is just going to make me sad, I’m probably not going to read past the first few sentences.. And then there were all those pictures.. and that intrigue.. and I was totally hooked.
I definitely NEED to go next time.
I have all the feelings right now. I’m going to read these recaps every single day until A-Camp 2.0. The worst moment of A-Camp was better than the best moment of everything else.
I KNOW RIGHT?
Your avatar is so appropriate.
“The worst moment of A-Camp was better than the best moment of everything else.” – this quote is a keeper
It’s the truest of true. I will never be able to adequately thank you. Take the most love you’ve ever received, double it, then add a zero to the end and you still won’t be close to the love I have for you (and the rest of the team).
this just made me cry <3
Oh no, Shannon, no. Tearing up too now. Wasteunit I totally agree with you. Caaamp!
another key moment of me knowing a-camp would be amazing: you, to ranger: “OKAY, I HAVE A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU, BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY A RANGER.” …dead silence in our shuttle…
you guys our shuttle was kind of amazing. even though we didn’t have a crazy danger life-or-death situation story…i still love all of you.
That was the very first feeling I processed that weekend!
Our shuttle was totally the bomb dot com.
You made Ranger pale for the briefest moment. Quite the accomplishment. But in the end..She came to adore you!
This is not true. I did not pale. I knew there was someone who was an actual ranger, in fact, I knew it was watseunit ahead of time. It just caught be by surprise momentarily. There was no pale-ing, Digger. However, you are right in saying that I do adore wasteunit.
we were awesome
and brittani is a really good driver
only because I am a great navigator :)
Thank you very much. I am very proud that we had an expedient and enjoyable trip and I wish I had a mic in which to talk on because I couldn’t talk to anyone but Katie without screaming and everything I’ve ever said to Katie she eventually makes fun of me for but it’s ok because I love her.
You are the most beautiful fucking people in the whole world, EVER! EVER..EVER..EVER!
I was planning a trip to New York this summer (and was gonna ask if any local Straddlers could show me round) but I might just save the money and try for A Camp 2.0 instead. It sounds like it would totally be worth the jetlag. (also I’ve always been curious about summer camps. We don’t really have them in england)
yes do this
You don’t have summer camps in England?!
To be fair, we don’t really have summer in England ;)
Dude, As a fellow Brit I’m thinking the exact same! Camp 2.0 would be immense. If I can get the money together we should totally organise a little A Camp travel team and go stateside together!
This is making me so sad that I can’t go back this fall!
:((((((((((
“Hush your young ass mouth, Gabby’s in charge.” DYING.
I wasn’t there, But everything about A-Camp and this post just makes my heart feel happy, you know?
If
We are all made of kittens
Then
Thursday is best described by the classic children’s board game “Kitty Chaos”
abbey that is THE BEST
Reading this was like reliving the first day of camp all over again. I can’t wait for the recaps from the rest of the weekend!!
I just can’t believe some/all of you got to hug Hannah Hart in person. I usually end up hugging my computer screen.
Seriously, I can’t believe I was part of the bread on the Hannah sandwich.
I enjoyed reading this a lot. Makes me so jealous of you all getting to go to (g)A(y)Camp. Looking forward to more!
feelings overdose
i’m dead
let’s process this.
I’m thinking back to when I was a little closeted gaybie nervously watching “If These Walls Could Talk 2” and “But I’m a Cheerleader.” My hand tightly clasping the remote, ready to change the channel at the slightest movement or noise. Wondering if I could ever talk to anyone about being gay or ever have gay friends. I never would have dreamt that something like this would ever exist and is now something I could potentially go to…that is incredibly overwhelming.
Not to beat a dead horse, but A-Camp: East Coast Edition would be epic.
“My hand tightly clasping the remote, ready to change the channel at the slightest movement or noise.”
omg my life
ditto!
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Getting up at 5am on a Sunday to watch the Cruel Intentions you stealth-recorded the previous night before you have to go to church, & listening the whole time for footsteps on the stairs.
My dad had a knack for wandering into the room during the really gay parts of Degrassi.
Although to be fair that was like at least 66% of the show.
and mine. i’m so glad i don’t have to obsessively clear my internet search history any more.
Most definitely. I used to watch the L Word alone at like 2am in my living room when I was 16. Then I came out to my parents when I was about 17. Watched an episode of the the L Word with my mom not long after. Soon enough we began watching it together.
My mom is awesome.
used to rent the L word, one disc at a time from blockbuster, and i’d switch them out to and from blockbuster in a black plastic bag so nobody could see what i was watching. true story. it was horrendous.
also i made my mom watch “but i’m a cheerleader” WAY before i even knew and she asked if i was trying to tell her something. oh well.
I…I really want to go to 2.0.
I wish I had money. And a single day when I didn’t have to be making money.
Dina looks like she’s REALLY excited about the Scrabble word she’s about to lay down, but possibly she was just in the middle of saying something.
Dina was killer at Scrabble!
i am really upset about missing scrabble
september!
Scrabble was right before indoor soccer.
INDOOR SOCCER
i can’t believe no one stopped us and that we didn’t break anything
YES! Indoor soccer was my welcome to A-Camp. Smiles :)
WAIT! Where the Hell was I? Damn it!
Dude. You were right there, dodging the soccer ball. Geeze, you hadn’t even started drinking yet at that point.
Our drive up with Rachel was pretty great. I was sitting in a van full of extremely attractive ladies, and we had the experience of going through Croce’s CDs together. The “Farm Mix” was.. interesting, to say the least. Also, the Lion King and of course, Ani.
Lol The “Farm Mix Vol 1. and 2.” were THE most random. Also, old school Pink!
this made me cry and i now 100% know that i want to be at the next one.
if i wasn’t at work right now i’m pretty sure i would be crying, hyperventilating, and flailing my arms all at once because i am overwhelmed by SO MANY FEELINGS.
first of all, SCARY NIGHTTIME GAMES MUST HAPPEN next time!
secondly, the debilitating heartache that i’ve been living with since april 29 had finally started to dull a little bit until this happened and now it hurts just as bad again because I MISS YOU FUCKERS SO DAMN MUCH. september cannot come quickly enough!
also not only does riese know my name she knows that piper (the name i go by) is actually my middle name and she knows what my real first name is which is a privilege usually reserved for my family, best friends, and people like college professors, so i hope you know how special you are riese. also i am waiting impatiently to hear about tinkerbell.
i think it’s hilarious that you almost named our cabin trouble because it’s kind of accurate. and crystal i appreciated your warning talk and definitely took it into consideration when i thought about how much whiskey to put in my first drink. :)
also i just remembered this, when the announcement about camp first happened in february i flipped a shit and immediately reserved my spot before doing anything like looking at a calendar, my bank account, or plane ticket prices. i knew from the start that camp was going to be something really really special that i could not miss if it was at all possible. even when my logical side was thinking that maybe this isn’t the best idea and my friends were like “how are you going to afford this?” the idea of not going never really crossed my mind. it was like my intuition knew how important and amazing camp was going to be and it just shut the logic up long enough for me to solidify my plans. i can’t really remember what point i was trying to make with this besides a-camp is unique and life changing and really special and important and i am still so, so thankful to the staff for making it happen.
wow i wrote a lot i just love you guys so much ok i’m going back to work now
I too appreciated crystal’s ‘drinking at high altitudes’ speech. When I began to feel especially giddy after our pre-campfire drinking session, it all made perfect sense.
Piper my heartache had started to go away and then I read this and it came back. BOO.
:( i wanna snuggle you!
why didn’t we all snuggle at camp, what the fuck?
I DON’T KNOW i have been wondering this for a week and a half there was so much love but not nearly enough snuggling. another thing to add to my “how to do a-camp 2.0 even better” list
IKR
All of the snuggles/conversations/macking I was nervous about initiating in hindsight are TOTALLY LOLZ cause you guys are clearly the best people ever and there was zero judging going down anywhere at camp.
A-Camp September = CUDDLE PUDDLE 2012
SNUGGLINGWORKSHOP2.0
Haha yeah I totally took Crystal’s warning into consideration for my first drink. The drinks after that…not so much.
I’m realizing know why you all kept referencing “rules” and “altitude” and “be careful”. I missed all these memos I am sorry!
The altitude just made how much of a lightweight I am even more embarrassing. 1 1/2 drinks and I was trying to do the Call Your Girlfriend dance.
Also, I wish we could have hung out with Crystal and Alex more! But I know it was always Trouble trying to find us.
i’m sorry i missed that
That dance was amazing
BUT THAT DANCE WAS THE BEST THING EVER. I’m still so sad we didn’t get to see its full fruition at the dance.
I think it says something that everytime you post, I immediately squeal “PIPER BABY” and then nearly cry because you write everything so poignantly. I MISS YOU!!
And yes, dying at the fact that we were originally named “Trouble”. (And I do not apologize for showing up fashionably late BECAUSE THAT’S HOW PAPI IS.)
I MISS YOU TOOOOO i looked at a map yesterday and you’re like, super far away from me. :(
i knew from the start that camp was going to be something really really special that i could not miss if it was at all possible. even when my logical side was thinking that maybe this isn’t the best idea and my friends were like “how are you going to afford this?” the idea of not going never really crossed my mind. it was like my intuition knew how important and amazing camp was going to be and it just shut the logic up long enough for me to solidify my plans.
This is exactly how I felt too, Piper. I couldn’t imagine NOT going, and I’m so glad I listened to that instinct. I figured I could always give up my spot if it didn’t work out, but I wouldn’t be able to sign up late because I knew it would fill up fast.
same feelings
it just seemed impossible not to go
yes! i had the same thought process. :) you’re the alicia that i talked to for a hot second on the hike on friday morning, right?
Yes! You told me you liked how I was wearing my sunglasses over my regular glasses. I’m really glad we had that conversation, because now I know who you are when I see you here in the comments.
i’m glad i know that it was you who saved one of the vans!! :)
‘PIPS’ I GOT YOU
I have never wanted to play scrabble with queer ladies until I read this, but now it’s on my bucket list.
Oh…and funny story about that pink construction paper note from Riese. It’s in a frame, on my bookshelf, next to a bust of Caesar.
you have the quote?? i wrote that quote =) THAT IS SO NEAT.
You have the nicest handwriting!
you do!
i thought i was the only person left who wrote in cursive
we had previously determined that Taylor won camp, but maybe you also won camp
ooh what did taylor do to win camp?
i think i win a little bit of camp because i was part of spin the bottle but did not get monostraddle!
i can’t believe how many people i drunkenly kissed on that mountain.
monostraddle is a thing! yay.
just trust us, taylor won camp.
I can honestly say Im really happly for everyone else. At first I thought reading this would be like watching a stranger open a present but it wasn’t, I wasn’t jealous or anything. It was like watching the Oscars when someone actually cool wins, like Charlie Chalplins lifetime achievement award…you should watch this, you will cry. I’m super excited that there in an entire camp of fun rad people. Congrats to everyone involved. You are awesome.
to the readers who didn’t go the last camp,
reading your comments makes me so so excited for the next one! we learned so much that weekend — about ourselves and these people and real life masquerading as dreams and how to get to meals on time — and then we learned another round of lessons after the fact and WE JUST CAN’T WAIT to put all the things into practice.
i was worried that publishing this recap would make some people think that camp sounded like a huge letdown, like they were glad they didn’t go. it’s like telling everyone about your rad slumber party where you watched ‘dirty dancing’ and all the doritos and prank called your cousin and the people you tell are like LAME, LANEIA. THAT’S LAME.
so anyway i’m glad to see that some of you still want to come to the next camp even though you know i’ll probably be doing a lot of silent affirmations/chanting re: overcoming severe anxiety so i can say hi to you!
and i will say hi to you. i’m totally gonna be all up in your shit next time.
I was planning to bear hug you approximately on sight, so if you aren’t into that now’s a good time to say. I can wave from an appropriate distance instead.
i’m for bear hugs!
#VIRALBEARHUGS
Laneia, during Sewing Circle: Does anyone need anything? Anything at all?
Ranger: I could totally use a back rub.
Laneia: (pause, looking slightly horrified)
Ranger: Just kidding….(but only kinda)
Everyone else: Laughter
Laneia is totally cool you guys. She laughs at your jokes and puts up with everyone mispronouncing her name, constantly. Basically, the whole staff is so fucking lovely and funny and warm, there is nothing to fear.
sarah croce is who you want giving you a massage. what if we have sarah croce walk around with a massage table in september. what then.
i really wanted a massage circle to happen.
also a hair braiding circle.
in-cabin hair braiding circles. write that down.
This totally makes me want to go to the next camp, and offer to drive one of the buses (I’m great with mountain roads).
I was so nervous to come up and say hi to you! You were super friendly and awesome though. Next time I’m at camp I’m totally gonna stick around and have an actual proper conversation with you.
I’m still way too interested in learning how to actually pronounce your name.
howtopronouncelaneia.tumblr.com
You guys, going to camp is worth it just to get a “hi” from Laneia.
omg <3 u alicia. also that picture of you and megan at LAX is one of my favorites ever. we had so much fun taking you to the airport!!
i kind of feel the same way but about talking to you guys, so…maybe we should all keep in mind that everyone already loves everyone else and we can bake a cake made out of rainbows and smiles and we could all eat it and be happy!
Life (and camp) is 10% what happens to you and 90% what you make of it. I wasn’t there this time but it sounds super amazing, even being stranded on the side of a mountain with a flat tire. Because I feel like you guys (meaning AS staff) are just regular little people like all of us readers, but you made this amazing thing happen and even though it wasn’t perfect there was so much love put into it that it seemed perfect. Like when your kid draws you a picture and to a stranger it might just look like a blob but you see the beautiful flowers and the sunshine because you love the person who made it for you. I feel like that’s probably what camp was like.
yes. that is exactly what camp was like.
yes yes, me too! laneia and i have done a lot of processing about how we forgot in the midst of worrying about everybody else’s social awkwardness that we were also socially awkward and therefore perhaps not as suited for the job of managing everybody else’s social awkwardness as we’d initially hoped.
anyhow, we both wished so much we’d had more time to talk to people’s faces and hug their bodies and we have really high hopes, like high-elevation hopes, for an even more spectacular A-Camp September!
TALK ATTACK
Laneia
I am sorry I was too shy to introduce myself to you.
Next camp I will. You’re my favorite.
AH IM AT WORK AND I FEEL LIKE CRYING
good thing i work for a theater company and we’re all extremely emotive/gay/gaymotive
thoughts:
1) when i introduced myself to Riese at the airport she said “shilpa…joshi, right?” and i was so blown away i just mumbled something and walked away. ALSO BECAUSE SHE PRONOUNCED IT RIGHT. holy shit no one in my life that has just read my name can pronounce it right the first time, unless they’re indian i suppose.
2) IS TINKERBELL OKAY
3) those pigeonholes were fucking GREAT
4) one of the Alpine staffers drove an SUV of the canadian sharks + me to santa monica and that woman BEASTED down those mountains roads like…..holy shit, we were careening around hairpin bends and all about to hyperventilate when she was like, you know i drive up and down this mountain twice a day, right? then we all calmed down and enjoyed the coolest view of Big Bear ever
campcampcampcampcampcampcamp :D
oh i love your name, your name is one of my favorite names of all the names! there are like ten of you with really fantastic names.
I really want to know how you pronounced my name during the trivia game.
just you wait ’til the part of the recap where we actually start doing things besides driving!!! THEN YOU’LL ALL WANT TO COME
I don’t know if you have room enough at Camp 2.0 for all the people who want to go, Riese.
Come.
Not go.
so much coming
Oh my, I messed that up.
This was so amazing. You guys put so much work in, and now you’re putting more work in re-capping how amazing it was so that we can all squeal in delight from our computers across the fucking country- nay, across the globe?! I LOVE YOU GUYS
And for my part I wanna say that the altitude totally didn’t affect my drinking. Troubletones for life.
yeah i was expecting to get drunk really quickly especially because i’ve barely drank for the past 6 months but that didn’t happen which i was kind of disappointed about tbh because i finished my bottle of whiskey too soon.
but then ranger appeared out of nowhere and gave me more! which was AWESOME.
there was no shortage of alcohol, that’s for sure.
I have been looking forward to hearing about A camp very much, and one of the things I have been most looking forward to: how to pronounce your name Laneia. Is now the time? Can the mystery finally be revealed?
Katie Miller had the best system for this
“Think linear…Laneia (lyn ee ah)”
IS THAT IT
LYN EE AH
mind broken.
that is one way to say it, yes!
katie miller definitely rocked my name for sure. and jen! you guys seriously, as long as it began with L, i’d answer to any sound that came out of your bright shining faces.
I kept saying it but I’m pretty sure Jen was the first one to think of it! It’s so helpful.
WATCH THIS AMAZING VIDEO OF THIS AMAZING THING THAT HAPPENED AT CAMP: http://youtu.be/OusUQKEQY_A
Katrina will show you how to pronounce Laneia.
Oh my goodness. You beautiful wonderful motherfuckers.
Looking at everyone smiling in the campfire photo made me cry. I can’t even express how much hope this website has given me over the past year. Thank you for the recap — I was really hoping you guys would write something for everyone who wasn’t able to attend. I’m going to make an A-Camp savings piggy bank for the next one in the fall. I’m nervous about it already! <3
YES, i don’t know if i’ve ever seen so many gigantic smiles in one weekend!
This recap is so great, it made me laugh like a fool and almost cry in public. I love you guys SO FUCKING MUCH. I’m really gonna try and hug you all next time, or at lest say words to your faces. I can’t wait for September!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this.
At first I thought there wouldn’t be a recap and camp would be an elusive place that only people who experienced it could understand. How silly of me to doubt Autostraddle.
This all sounds like fun so far, I can’t wait to get the the parts where everything goes right and people start…having fun.
Also curious about the personal messages…what a cute idea!
Omg this recap made me so happy! I’ve been re-living camp in my head pretty much every day since it happened, and this just makes it better.
A month ago I never would have thought that I’d give SO MUCH consideration to skipping a week of grad school to go to A-Camp 2.0. (But seriously I might do it.)
i’m planning on doing it, so you should too. :)
i found the description of the journey hysterically funny. it was like a monty python sketch. the carpet at a-camp is nauseating
So grateful you are sharing/recapping ACamp. Vicarious thrills/sympathy abound!
POOR TINKERBELL!!
Riese this is your greatest recap yet, and that is really saying something.
aww
Do ya’ll remember when Lizz did a victory lap around the Terminal 3 baggage claim because one of the campers was wearing boots that she had recommended in a post? That was a special moment.
that was pretty amazing
I remember that. I was there.
I recall getting winded pretty quickly though.
there can not be too much information about what sounds like the greatest weedend of all time!love this
*weeKend!no pun intended
lol roadrunners yelp reviews. at least this wasn’t a wedding.
I KNOW RIGHT? did you see the one where they had to delay their wedding by two hours because of RR, or the one where the 85-year-old grandmother twisted her ankle ’cause the driver wouldn’t pull up closer to the curb? that was amazing.
Stef’s description of Rachel’s quotes sound exactly like her–always knows exactly what to say <3.
This makes me really wish I could have gone to camp, and also makes me Chistraddler-sick (it's like homesick, but for gays). Is that weird?
I didn’t go to camp, but this article was the best thing ever to read while arguing with a bigot on my facebook status about whether or not gays are strong people.
I want this. As a die hard camp fan with tons o’ camping experience, I must experience this. Please bring to the East Coast (Boston, ahem) this fall! I’ll volunteer to drive Boston straddlers if it’s any help!
Plus there would be a huge contingent of straddlers from Smith. Seriously there’s so many of us, and it’s growing with the incoming class this fall.
I just want to say that this sounds pretty much like the best thing that has ever happened. I recently have come out and autostraddle has been a huge part in that. I’m happy that now I don’t have to hide or close down the links anymore when someone walks by. You guys are an amazing group of women who have made life significantly better for a number of people who you will never meet but will be forever grateful. I just want to say that if 2.0 happens I will be there with bells on to meet the people who have changed my life and made me feel more comfortable in my own skin.
it’s not if 2.0 happens, it’s when! :)
Driving up that mountain in the fog was scary, and I was in a Civic. ALL THE RESPECT for the A-Camp staffers who drove those big ol’ vans.
You were hardcore, B! HARDCORE!
there’s still mountain glitter on my camp shoes
this sounds like a great tattoo
Even though I didn’t go, I feel like the world is a better place just because Camp happened.
this is beautiful and amazing and i can’t wait to read the rest
there were lots of hilarious moments but for some reason jess’s paragraph about picking up the wrong human at the airport sent me over the edge
like, i am lying on my bed giggling like a maniac
i just can’t get over the image
i’m laughing by myself at my computer screen
also jess and i had a really nice brief conversation in the cheder ochel (obsessed with the hebrew writing all over camp) about being feminine and having our parents doubt our queerness because we liked to paint our nails and we have long hair so maybe i just really love jess
but for serious guys i’m still laughing
in conclusion a camp was the best, i am seriously doubtful about having time off/money to go to camp in september but in my heart i know i have to make it happen because it was too important and too special to not happen again
like the thought of camp happening and me not being at it physically hurts my heart
you know?
Yes, that’s exactly how I’m feeling right now. A-Camp 1.0 was not exactly a financially responsible decision for me, but I can’t imagine not going to the next one.
Also, this:
Everyone looked so good even though they probably just traveled across the country and drove up the side of Killer Mountain on a spare tire.
and this:
As soon as the first bushy tailed little darlings rolled out of what looked like a kidnapper’s van, it was clear that everything would be basically absolutely perfect from there on out.
right in a row had me cracking up for about five minutes straight. Driving up Killer Mountain on a spare tire in a kidnapper’s van is an exactly perfect description of the crazy transportation situation on Thursday.
by the way, everyone totally does have cute and awesome haircuts.
This recap is giving me so many feelings I can’t even write them logically. So I’ll just say that despite the crazy traffic/exhaustion/social anxiety compounded by my vanmates being so witty and talkative and funny on the ride up the mountain, it was totally worth it because A-Camp was a life-changing experience!
I can’t wait to relive the rest of it with everyone.
And go to the next one, even if I have to sell a kidney to do it.
You guys went through so much to make this dream of Riese’s into reality. Camp was worth it. Totally worth it. (Please keep doing it. Forever.)
I was one of the fashionably late arrivals, so reading this entire post made me feel like I missed out on A LOT of stuff. As Gabby put it, I missed one day of rapture.
Crystal, drinking at high altitude = more bang for your buck! I feel like I didn’t overdo it, hell, we even played soccer on Saturday morning!
Katrina, you’re not alone. Apparently “People are afraid to merge on freeways in Los Angeles.”
when she told me that she was afraid to merge, the first thing i thought of was Less Than Zero
that BEE quote also came to mind when i read this recap.
also everyone i was mostly kidding, re: the drinking. let the record show that i did not see any extreme intoxication in the troubletones cabin.
responsible is our collective middle name
I feel like it is worth noting that your reason for warning us was because YOU AND ALL THE A-CAMP STAFF GOT SMASHED THE NIGHT BEFORE.
These recaps prove yet again how absolutely fucking amazing everyone involved with A-Camp is (AS staff and campers alike).
I am having trouble finding the words to express just how awesome A-Camp was. And this recap is making me miss it so much. I want A-Camp to be real life 24/7/365.25.
Also, I am saving for a bunch of stuff right now and am not sure if going to A-Camp 2.0 is the best decision financially. But not going just isn’t an option for my heart, ya know?
I feel like everyone here knows each other but I don’t know who any of you are. WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE.
brb I need to go look at the Cherry Bomb cabin group picture to confirm that I was there
Ikr, it seems like some lovely pillowy dream…I go to look at the A-camp shirt at intervals to confirm that I was actually there. Even reading this re-cap & rememembering some of these things I still can’t believe it.
Oh Brianna. You were there. I remember and also feel like it is a miracle I never trampled/fell on you in the night climbing into/out of the bunk.
My bunkmate! Hi Elise. Thanks for confirming that I was at camp.
p.s. you never talked in your sleep as far as I can recall, just fyi.
Oh thank heyzeus. I fear for what my drunken mutterings could have been.
YOU WERE THERE we hung out we were cool. I feel the same way/like I am not doing too good a job of matching usernames to real people, that might be it.
Looking at the photos makes me a little heartachey, they’re so awesome though.
That’s it. One way or another, I will be at the next A-Camp. You all look/sound so cute and smiley and fun and fantastic!
This is so fun to read and relive!! I’m so excited about the next camp, its going to be perfect! Also, I can’t wait to actually go around and talk to people this time. I only was able to visit half of the cabins!! Really really looking forward to seeing all of you in September!!
Why didn’t I go to this!?!? Ahhhh, I should’ve gone! All the ladies! All the camping! Fuck!
Next time… I’m so in.
I just noticed the picture of the basketball game. Was it anything like the basketball game in The L Word? Because that’s how I’m imagining it.
“whatchoo doin, rodeo?”
“SHOPPIN’, BITCH.”
YALL THE SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Reading this makes me desperately wanna go. I’m not sure I can afford it, and I’ve never been out of my country before, and so I’ve never flown, but hnnng, I really REALLY want to go – so will have to look into it anyways. XD
Hey Gabby, Heyyyy! I feel like I need to change my name to “Co-Pilot Katie” now.
You were an awesome co-pilot. I was at the back of the van so I don’t know what co-piloting actually entailed BUT WE WERE IN AWE OF YOUR NAVIGATIONAL SKILLS – it would’ve been very bad if we’d gone up the wrong mountain after everything.
(P.S. Am very pleased with myself for finding the right Kate, when you told me your username on the last day I was convinced I’d never be able to remember it/find you again.)
girl, you were the best. so fucking cool the whole time. we gotta catch up. i wanna know the things!
The first reactions and reviews about A-camp were so jubilant that it really surprises me that there were so many transportation- and startup-issues. This only makes the exciting reviews more awesome: despite some struggles at the beginning, everybody still feels this was the best camp of their lives. That’s a real accomplisment!
That schedule pic is making me so jealous.
Also I think Autostraddle is the only website where I like the user comments as much as the articles. So much love!
I can’t even get my feelings together to post a comment.
I think next camp I need to make a point to take more pictures and appear in more pictures. And maybe not spend so much time in an oversized crew-neck sweatshirt.
I was on one of the first shuttles you launched. You called my name and I said something about how I could wait for another if need be.You cut me off, white knuckle gripping your clip-board and said sternly “You are on THIS shuttle.” I think I pee’d a little and nodded. But as I quickly walked towards the door I mumbled something about how “if I had my rifle..mumble mumble.” But damn I had a new respect for you!
CUTIES, EACH AND EVERY ONE
What did you do to “win Camp” oh great and wonderful Oz?
For a second this felt like being back at camp. I didn’t know that staff persons cried at the opening campfire, but this information breaks my heart into tiny, beating love pieces.
Also, I’m still coming to terms with the fact that RIESE BERNARD, CEO OF AMAZING and BRILLIANT IDEAS/VISIONS, knows who I am….!
Reading this made me feel SO MANY FEELINGS because I wasn’t there/about not being there. But ChicagoStraddle represent! I actually haven’t completely forgiven Amy/Rachel/Laurie for the Harto pics and texts. I will be at the next A Camp if I have to sell my belongings, cats, and future unborn children. I WILL. Can I be in Tinkerbell’s cabin?
YES YOU CAN
This is so magical, I can’t even. I can’t wait for east coast a-camp.
This recap (and the prospect of THREE MORE) is my happy place. It’s so flipping good and Beth hasn’t even been mentioned yet!
Yay! I will never get sick of talking about camp ever.
Can “I Wanna Gay Baby” be our official campfire song? We can send out the lyrics ahead of time and boom sing-a-long.
Also if you want, some of us ‘straddlers are profresh event planners. Maybe we can get like some sponsored booze and shiz? I’ll have to get my thoughts together and e-mail about this. Basically I’m pretty sure Jenner and I can make free things happen.
You guys! Riese mentioned my name in this and half my leg and an arm are in one of the pictures! My life is now complete. Not to toot my own horn but damn I’m practically famous.
Those pidgeonholes are the cutest and most amazing thing ever. I suggested a ‘have some way to leave each other notes’ type of thing in the comments on the original A Camp announcement post but I’m glad and really not surprised that you guys were onto it already.. and look at how adorable they are!
I hope that everyone got some compliments, encouragement, quotes and numbers etc. ;)
Reading this while my father sleeps in the bed next to me in a shitty hotel room and trying not to laugh too loudly but it’s not working. You guys are the best! I wish Riese, Robin, Marnie, and everyone else were in charge of making my whole life just as funny and wonderful and at times disorganized as camp. Love you guys.
I didn’t even go to A-Camp but reading this recap and reading you guys’ comments made me properly sob into my keyboard ;__;
A CAMP TEARS FOREVER!
OMG! Emily is that a venezuelan flag in your picture?? *.*
A-Camp sounds really, really, really amazing… I think I’d have to go to the 3rd one… There’ll a 3rd one, right?? :-O